The Hip Hop Thread

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:07 am

UltiMIca06 wrote:: Welll if "Real Rap" wasn't on the Radio...they wouldn't have their $$$ and Cars and Fame!...Ya know!

Thats why sometimes the BEST Underground Rapper's have to go "commerical" to make $$$ and stuff.....

just cause a "rapper" has cash, cars n fame DOESNT mean that what they are creating is real HIP-HOP!
how do ya figure that?!?

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:50 am

omarsxb951 wrote:: My posts also got deleted. I def don't feel like writing them again.

and why would the posts get deleted???

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did you read the post in the alpha squad section?

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:02 am

panDULCE wrote:

UltiMIca06 wrote:: Welll if "Real Rap" wasn't on the Radio...they wouldn't have their $$$ and Cars and Fame!...Ya know!

Thats why sometimes the BEST Underground Rapper's have to go "commerical" to make $$$ and stuff.....

just cause a "rapper" has cash, cars n fame DOESNT mean that what they are creating is real HIP-HOP!
how do ya figure that?!?

I meant if someone stays "underground"....then they dont make as much $$ as the Lame Commerical Rapper these days...SO, if you want MORE exposure...Then you will have to be Commericalized sooner or later...

Look what happen w/ Green Day!...they were Underground Punk band..They knew that they would have to be Commercialized to make it in the industry of music.

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:10 am

Super Mario wrote:: did you read the post in the alpha squad section?

yea i just read it

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:31 am

UltiMIca06 wrote:

panDULCE wrote:

UltiMIca06 wrote:: Welll if "Real Rap" wasn't on the Radio...they wouldn't have their $$$ and Cars and Fame!...Ya know!

Thats why sometimes the BEST Underground Rapper's have to go "commerical" to make $$$ and stuff.....

just cause a "rapper" has cash, cars n fame DOESNT mean that what they are creating is real HIP-HOP!
how do ya figure that?!?

I meant if someone stays "underground"....then they dont make as much $$ as the Lame Commerical Rapper these days...SO, if you want MORE exposure...Then you will have to be Commericalized sooner or later...

Look what happen w/ Green Day!...they were Underground Punk band..They knew that they would have to be Commercialized to make it in the industry of music.

Too bad this is a "Hip Hop" thread. Make an example like Twista or lil wayne.

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:39 am

In my opinion, good music, whether it be Hip hop, rock, etc. can only stay underground for so long. Especially nowadays with the internet, there's very few true underground artists like in the pre-internet era.

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:10 am

way to deep for me....i'm outta here..peace....

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YOU KNOW WHAT, FORGET THE TITLES RAP AND HIP HOP, THOSE ARE DEAD NOW. THIS IS THE REASON WHY JAMES AND I LISTEN TO THE UNDERGROUND ISH, IT'S ALWAYS FRESH AND NEW NEVER THE SAME. I DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE IF I HAVE PLEASE PM MARIO ABOUT IT....LOL. BUT FOR REAL, ICP AND THE WHOLE PSYCHOPATHIC FAMILY, KMK, TECH 9INE IS WHAT I WILL BE PLAYIN. AND THE REST OF THE MUSIC OUT THERE IS GARBAGE TO MUCH WINING AND CRYIN ANYMORE IF YOU ASK ME. clown

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ICP= Root Beer & Wrestling

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Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:03 pm

im sorry man but ICP is far from being underground hip hop...

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:07 pm

_]WEPAINT[_ wrote:: im sorry man but ICP is far from being underground hip hop...

co-signed...

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:32 pm

Good discussion guys, in the end, we can all agree to disagree, no matter how bad of a taste in music we have. j/k

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:47 pm

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Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:55 pm

OK, I can understand what everyone saying BUT you guys make it sound like going mainstream is a bad thing. Yes, there are a lot of bad rappers out there that have made it big but w/e, oh well. some people just need top hating and just listen to what you want to listen to. If radio stations played mainly "underground rap", that station or the artists they play wouldn't last very long. Also, I'm pretty sure those underground rappers wouldn't mind going mainstream.

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805hatchetthrower wrote:: FAYGO BOMBS DROPPED DAILY UP THIS PIECE

I dunno, ICP is more about face painting, spraying root beer at people then actually known for lyrics i think like josh said they are far from being underground hip-hop

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:30 pm

hoy its kevin wrote:: OK, I can understand what everyone saying BUT you guys make it sound like going mainstream is a bad thing. Yes, there are a lot of bad rappers out there that have made it big but w/e, oh well. some people just need top hating and just listen to what you want to listen to. If radio stations played mainly "underground rap", that station or the artists they play wouldn't last very long. Also, I'm pretty sure those underground rappers wouldn't mind going mainstream.

very very very true....some very good examples of this is happening over at MTV....guess who they play now? Atmosphere, Murs, Cage, Etc.....there kinda goin mainstream now. but i think what it boils down to is not whether or not there mainstream or underground but the lyric content and what each individual has to express...like i said earlier, anyone could write about bitches and hoes, money and cars....it takes a true lyricist to flow about life off the top of the dome....

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:54 pm

[]\//\[\] wrote:: ....it takes a true lyricist to flow about life off the top of the dome....

real talk.

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:59 pm

I think there are mainstream rappers out there that can still rap. I think when it comes to commercial they gotta put out some "gurly girl" song so that people will pick up the album. For example, everyone knows that TI can rap but he also knows the game. He also does underground stuff with DJ's as well.

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:00 pm

Who ever heard Souljah boy on an underground tape freestyling?

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:01 pm

dasiknes803 wrote:: Who ever heard Souljah boy on an underground tape freestyling?

Yea seriously. He'd get murked!

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ICP KEEPS IT REAL 6 ALBUMS AND COUNTING HAVE EITHER GONE GOLD OR PLATINUM 17 YRS IN THE UNDERGROUND AND THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF STOPPIN. THEY DON'T HAVE TO RAP ABOUT THE TYPICAL BS LIKE HOW MANY CARS THEY OWN OR HOW MANY WOMEN THEY HAVE BEEN WITH HOW MAN PEOPLE THEY SHOT OR HOW MUCH MONEY THEY GOT. NOONE NEEDS TO KNOW ANY OF THAT. ASIDE FROM THE FACE PAINTIN AND FAYGO BOMBS, GO TO A SHOW AND YOU WILL SEE TRY TALKIN MAINSTREAM AROUND THE JUGGALOS THEY WILL TELL YOU... clown

Subject: Re: The Hip Hop Thread Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:01 pm

Binary star!!!

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ianxb909 wrote:: Binary star!!!

F T M F W!

But yea icp is far from underground hip hop. go listen up on De La soul, J-dilla, slum village, wu tang, living legends, cunninglinguists, gang starr, hieroglyphics, mf doom, j5 etc... and then well talk
i think a perfect example of a good balance of fame and street cred is Nas. the man is a legend in the dungeons of hip hop yet he makes vma appearances and kills it.
dont get me wrongi do enjoy a dose of mainstreamness every once in a while, but as stated in an earlier post, just listen to what you find pleasing.i dunno just imho; my 2 cents

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